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How Dell and Apple Use Customer Service as a Sales Force

  
  
  

Dave Kurlan is a top-rated speaker, best-selling author, sales thought leader and highly regarded sales development expert.

customer  service repI've written several articles about customer service and how quickly and easily they can passively sell your customers on defecting from your company and moving their business to a competitor.  My favorite targets over the years have been Verizon, Dell and the airlines, but recently, my commercial insurance agent, and my accountant have accomplished this feat too.  In this article, it's Apple's turn and just wait until you read this...

If you've dealt with Dell, and who hasn't, you know that first you have to wait, and wait some more just to talk with someone.  When you do finally get someone to speak with, you can't understand a word they are saying.  Then you get transferred a few times to more people you can't understand.  Then you rinse and repeat (start from scratch with each person you have to speak with), and are asked 50 stupid questions that have nothing to do with your problem.  They ask you to try all kinds of things that don't fix your problem because they don't know what they're talking about.  Then finally, after two frustrating hours, Dell MIGHT resolve your issue but you are resolved not to buy from them again.   

macbook proI went on Apple's support site tonight at around 5:45 PM.  I entered the information (my user ID, password and the problem selected from a drop-down list) and the site said I would receive a call back immediately.  Sure - right.

It took 5 seconds - 5 SECONDS! -  to speak with a live person, who spoke English and actually had my information in front of her. No rinsing or repeating!  Want to know what happened next? 

She said she would get a replacement shipped out today.  Done.  The entire conversation - and it was a conversation, not someone following prompts on a computer screen, took less than 5 minutes.  Makes we want to buy something else from Apple.  That new iPad looks pretty awesome, doesn't it? [UPDATE - it arrived less than 17 hours later - 10:30 AM]

Customer Service has more impact on customer retention than your salespeople because they may interact with them more than your account managers do. This is such an important concept.  They must be able to hold conversations and make your customers thrilled with the outcomes. And consider that if you want to make this transition, you may not have the right people in place to get them to perform the way you want. 

You expect your salespeople to find and close business.  You should expect your customer service people to not only retain the business, but uncover new opportunities too.  Sounds a lot like inside sales to me...



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Posted by Dave Kurlan on Wed, May 19, 2010 @ 09:36 PM

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Nice story. Want an even better experience? Make an appointment with a Mac expert at the "genius bar" inside a Mac store. The service is incredible. No wonder their retail stores SMASH all the typical retail sales metrics. Some stores average over a million bucks a day in sales.

posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 5:48 AM by karl Scheible


Another point about Apple and their Apple Stores that separate them from their competitors and set an example for service in all industries. 
 
I've been to Apple Stores in NY City, Albany, NY, White Plains, NY, Danbury, CT and Sydney, Australia and besides the Genius Bar example noted above, the Apple Stores are always stocked with more employees on their sales floor than customers its like the old phrase "you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an Apple Service person on their sales floor." I don't think you go seconds standing alone wiithout one asking if you are being helped. 
 
As someone who used to manage a large service staff I was always evaluating payroll expenses and probably fell short of over-staffing to maintain margins, but it looks like Apple's turned that philosophy on its head. At a $1 million a day in some stores, maybe The Home Depot could learn a lesson as trying to find someone to help you in one of their stores has as much a chance as interacting with another human in solitary confinement at Alcatraz.

posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 at 7:19 AM by Skip Weisman


When will CEO's realise that every company needs to be a sales organisation because everyone can influence sales directly or indirectly. So where does the buck stop on this? How in touch are senior management with anything other than the dashboard figures and they react to those figures. How many senior managers call their own centres or take a shift in the front line. If they did there might be considerably less than the appalling service levels that are out there now.I could quote example after example and it would fill a book so two accolades - Cathay Pacific and American Express Platinum Cards. Both have 'let's help' when I call. The biggest wooden spoon goes to Hertz tyring to defend the indefensible and eventually backed down only because they realised I wasn't goinf away. Dave, maybe time for a dedicated customer service evaluation?

posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 2:07 AM by Ray Bigger


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