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Rod Stewart and Barry Manilow Could be Your Veteran Salespeople

  
  
  

Dave Kurlan is a top-rated speaker, best-selling author, sales thought leader and highly regarded sales development expert.

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Barry Manilow dominated the 70's with hits like "I Write the Songs" and "Copacabana".  Rod Stewart dominated the 70's and 80's with hits like "Tonight's the Night" and "Hot Legs".  But they are far more alike than that.  They are both skinny 65 year-olds with coiffed blond hair and in the last few years received horrible face lifts. Oh yeah, women love them. Could they be the same guy?  Were they separated at birth?

And they both behave like veteran salespeople!  

Instead of continuing to churn out hits in the past decade, both have played it safe.  Rather than risk recording new songs and having a new generation reject their music, they both recorded songs that others had hits with.  Manilow recorded albums of Broadway Hits, Love Songs, and four albums of Greatest Hits covering the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's.  Stewart recorded four volumes of the Great American Songbook as well as the Greatest Rock Classics.  They already had a huge fan base. Rather than attempt to expand it, appeal to a new audience, and sell their original style of music to a younger generation, they simply continued to generate renewal business from their existing customers.

Isn't that just like so many of your veteran salespeople?  There isn't a single complaint that I hear any more often than this one:  "My veteran salespeople are living off of their existing customers and I can't get them to go and find new business."  Just like Barry Manilow and Rod Stewart!

Yesterday I spoke with a client who had questions about a Sales Candidate we assessed.  He wanted to recruit this candidate who had built a nice territory from scratch in the 80's and turned it into a #1 territory. The client wanted to bring this candidate to a new city and recreate that success. But the assessment didn't provide any indication that the candidate would succeed.  The client demanded an explanation.  Why did this superstar assess so poorly?

The answer is very simple.  While he may have been motivated to build that territory 30 years ago when he was a lot younger, he is not motivated to do it again today.  Think about it.  If you're a 30 year veteran of the sales business, would you be motivated to start from scratch in a new territory?  Our assessment simply showed that this candidate no longer had the Desire or Commitment he once had. He lacked Money Motivation and didn't have the required skills. What?  How could the skills have gone away?  They didn't.  He never had them to begin with.  In the 80's he may not have needed the skills.  It was much easier to build relationships and provide a quality product to take business away from competitors. It turns out that this sales candidate has been living off of the client base he developed back in the 80's and hasn't sold any new customers in years. In the current challenging economy, with all of the resistance prospects have for buying, salespeople and change, without skills, he would simply get killed. 

Barry Manilow and Rod Stewart would likely get killed today too.  Their songs wouldn't appeal to today's kids and I would guess that neither are very motivated to change their styles and start from scratch just to risk alienating their existing fan base.  They could be selling for you! 



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Posted by Dave Kurlan on Tue, Sep 14, 2010 @ 04:06 AM

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Great analogy. Given the Vets has become a "top" account managers and the company is not going to let this person go, most likely let them retire, it is a prime reason to start hiring new "A" players not only to build new territories but to be able if need be take over some of the vet clients. It's also a resson that companies should build a pool of candidates to be ready when needed for more new blood. 
 
By the way as an aside, Rod Stewart has another new CD coming out of more classics for his followers.

posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 7:14 AM by Ed Kleinman


In addition to the questionable ambition of Rod and Barry, I would also hold the record management accountable. My guess is they know that Barry and Rob fans will purchase anything they record, so it is safe revenue for the record label. This is just like a sales manager who doesn't want to upset a veteran salesperson because they don't want to risk losing that piece of their overall revenue goal by forcing them to change, and having them quit. The revenue generated for the label by Rod and Barry, while it my shrink a bit from album to album, is still a certain amount of revenue they can count on from year to year. 
 
 
 
While huge hot acts like Elvis or The Beatles don't come along everyday so it can be scary to drop an act because you don't know initially how you are going to replace their revenue, there are plenty of acts like U2 or Metallica that have started small but kept doing the basics better and better and now they are huge revenue makers. Sales managers need to get salespeople on their staffs that do the basics and become big rather than keeping the veteran salespeople who have lost the fire and are slowly fading into oblivion. Some of the new and upcoming salespeople may turn out like Metallica and be solid revenue producers for years, others may turn out more like Britney Spears, hot for awhile, then become too much of a burden on the company and need to be dropped. Some of the new salespeople might be like Hanson. They get to the top and the salesperson and company ride the wave, but then they crash and the salesperson is never heard from again. Some acts when given the right management and coaching (like Britney Spears got when her dad took over her management) get another chance and make hit albums again. Other acts like Autograph are one hit wonders and flame out. The secret is to recognize which way the salesperson is going and act accordingly. 
 
 
 
I'd argue in either case your company is better off taking a chance on an early U2, an unknown Carrie Underwood, or an up & down Brittney than hanging on to a staff of Barry Manilows and Rod Stewarts. 
 

posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM by Everet Kamikawa


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