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Who Cares More - Sales or Marketing?

  
  
  

Dave Kurlan is a top-rated speaker, best-selling author, sales thought leader and highly regarded sales development expert.

It all depends on the parameters.  I'll list a dozen or so items that both sales and marketing should care about and provide my opinion about who cares more.  Then you can tell me how wrong I am.

Who cares more about:

  • Revenue - Sales is often compensated on revenue or at least gross profit so sales wins this one hands down.
  • Leads - This one could go either way...Marketing is supposed to generate leads and  companies that place an emphasis on lead gen and measure its effectiveness, care more.  In fact, in companies where there is that much emphasis on leads, salespeople depend on them and hate them, all at the same time.  So many of the leads in high volume lead gen initiatives are low quality leads.  Based on that, marketing cares more.  However, in companies that don't generate many leads and where they aren't expected to generate high volumes of leads, when sales does get the occasional lead they care very much!  Scenario two is more common so I'll give the nod to sales caring more about leads but only by a small margin.
  • Conversions -Marketing doesn't believe that conversions are high enough but which conversions are we talking about?  Lead to appointment?  Lead to Opportunity?  Lead to Qualified?  Lead to Closed?  Marketing cares about generating leads.  Sales cares about conversions.
  • Praise - Marketing cares more about how their work looks - they want praise for their designs.  Sales only gets praise for results - for revenue.  Marketing cares more about praise.
  • Income - Sales usually gets commissions and bonuses based on revenue - not marketing - so sales cares more about income.
  • Pressure - Sales is always under pressure while marketing - not so much.  Sales cares more about pressure.
  • Results - See Income.
  • Metrics - Assuming that companies have and use metrics, sales metrics are more likely to drive revenue while marketing metrics are more likely to identify effective ways to generate leads.  With the latest technology, Marketing is more nimble than ever before and can act on those metrics and make instant changes.  With sales, the metrics typically point to changes that salespeople must make to their behaviors - something that takes longer and sometimes doesn't happen at all.  Marketing cares more about metrics.
  • The Look - Marketing is responsible for the look but sales rely on the look as a crutch.  Marketing has pride of authorship so they care more.
  • The Brand - Marketing positions the brand and does the "branding". They are the only ones that care!
  • Reality - Sales lives in the reality of customer interaction, competition, and market challenges.  Marketing believes that every lead should be sold.  Sales cares more.
  • The Customer - Sales cares more about what the customers think and say because sales, not marketing, is hearing those opinions directly.  Sales cares more.
  • Activity - Sales cares more.

That's my opinion - choose one or two categories and tell me why I'm right or wrong...

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Posted by Dave Kurlan on Tue, Feb 08, 2011 @ 10:36 PM

COMMENTS

Marketing creates pieces, campaigns, and glittering, glowing, flowering, nice nice things. Sales create opportunity when there was none.  
 
Marketing lets' people know who has what when they get ready to buy something. Sales create opportunity and causes people to buy. 
 

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 7:14 AM by Rocky LaGrone


Marketing cares more about leads for two reasons:  
 
 
 
1. Leads are the only segment of the sales process they can take responsibility for. Low conversion rates can be blamed on sales.  
 
 
 
2. Salespeople, in most cases, are fed up with the low quality leads marketing generates and consequently care-less. Lead generation may be sales number one complaint.  
 
 
 
David Brock wrote a fabulous article about putting marketing on commission, which I have been a believer in for over 30 years. Without a vested interest in the end result, most marketing departments create stuff that looks good that sells appointments, not products and services.  
 

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 7:53 AM by Gary Hart


Out of all the articles I have read from this blog, this is one that I am most disappointed in. There is a certain naïveté by trying to pit one department over the other. Marketing is sales, sales is marketing - it is the process of promoting and selling and distributing a product or service. Why would anyone treat marketing and sales like two different disciplines’? If they are they are missing huge opportunties to grow their company.

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:35 AM by Mike Jewell


 
 
The Customer – Dave's thinking was that sales cares more, because sales, not marketing is hearing those opinions directly. I would say that marketing gets at least “equal” billing here. The classic “4 P’s” of marketing (product, price, place, promotion) are all tied to customers in some way, shape or form. I’ve always added a fifth “P”....People! One of the primary goals of a company’s marketing efforts is to build the brand—with people (customers!). I don’t think you can have good sales results without exceptional marketing efforts. 
 
 
 
 

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:40 AM by Mel "Doc" Croucher


@Mike - Exactly! You were supposed to be disappointed... 
 
In most companies, sales and marketing are completely disconnected where they should be integrated, working together, helping each other, adapting to each others requirements, sharing goals and more! 
 
Thank you Mike for being the first to get it!

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:41 AM by Dave Kurlan


@Gary - thanks for letting us know about David Brock's article. Here's the link to read it.

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:43 AM by Dave Kurlan


@Rocky - nice way to present the differences.

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:44 AM by Dave Kurlan


@Doc - Thanks for contributing to this discussion - putting the people into marketing is crucial!

posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 at 9:45 AM by Dave Kurlan


In my experience in small high tech companies, there has not been a marketing department. In these situations, I have worked with ownership to make sure that my sales efforts and our marketing aspects, especially website and brand, match up.

posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 at 5:29 PM by Jonathan Handler


Hi, 
 
 
 
I read all your newsletters and specially appreciate the fact most of the ideas are based on studies. 
 
 
 
In this case, more than discussing which cares most, I think what we should start to emphasize, is the need of team work from both departements. 
 
 
 
Everyone knows how tense some relationships are in some companies between them, and how much good work is lost because of that. 
 
 
 
Each in it's role, should share information and views and work together to achieve the goals. 
 
 
 
And we all know that doesn't happen all the times. It's kind of a "war" indoors that doesn't make sense at all 
 
 
 
Best regards 
 
 
 
Paulo Soares 
 
www.atitudevendedora.com

posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 at 6:42 AM by Paulo


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