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How to Find the Compelling Reasons for Seth Godin's Intangibles

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Seth Godin's recent column on Intangibles was great.  As a matter of fact, I haven't disagreed in more than two years with anything he has written  about selling.  Today he provided many examples - great examples - of how your intangibles create value.  I'd like to explain how your salespeople can uncover these - and other - reasons why prospects would pay more to do business with you.

It all begins with the environment your salespeople create with their prospects.   I'm talking about the relationship your salespeople develop, their ability to show they care about their prospect and the role they play in their business, and their ability to create trust.  It is only in this environment that your salespeople can ask dozens of good, tough, timely questions.

Those questions have to be better and tougher than anyone else's. Here's an example and you can apply this example to your business by substituting what your prospects usually decide to do for the one in this example, and then punch holes as I do below:

Your Salesperson: It sounds like you've determined that you need to advertise on the web rather than in print, but I'm curious  - how did you reach that decision?

Prospect: Well, we just know that more people are on the web than reading print publications.

Your Salesperson: It's true - sometimes.  Tell me, who do you need to reach?

Prospect: Our target audience is men 45-70.

Your Salesperson: Why are they your target?

Prospect: They always have been.

Your Salesperson: But aren't women more likely to buy it for their men than men are to buy it for themselves?

Prospect: Great question.  I guess they are.

Your Salesperson: And what happens if you fail to target the right audience?

Prospect: We'll waste our ad money.

Your Salesperson: How much would you guess you wasted over the last five years?

Prospect: Most of it.

Your Salesperson: And how much is that?

Prospect: Several hundred thousand dollars.

Your Salesperson: Is that alot of money for you?

Prospect: Yes - it's huge. 

Your Salesperson: Would you like to fix that problem?

Prospect: Yes, very much.

Your Salesperson: Would you like my help?

Prospect: Yes. 

Your Salesperson: Are you willing to spend a little more with me to get the problem fixed, the right way, once and for all?

Prospect: Yes, certainly, if it solves the problem. 

So rather than presenting how great your ability is to place web advertising, and rather than providing prices for web advertising, the salesperson asks questions to identify a problem (wrong demographic) the prospect wasn't aware of along with a compelling reason (wasting ad money) to do business with this salesperson alone (SOB Quality) - because of the questions that were asked.  If the salesperson now recommends print advertising as a solution to the problem, it will be accepted as expert advice in the context of a problem to be solved.

How is this different from what your salespeople are doing?

(c) Copyright 2008 Dave Kurlan 

Posted by Dave Kurlan on Fri, Aug 15, 2008 @ 06:30 AM

COMMENTS

Dave, great article. Over the years I have observed the relationships I have had with customers. I always believed that asking questions was not the highest valued skill in sales. For me it was the relationship first. The next one was to be able to be in the moment and really listen. The next was the ability to understand the data coming in and then to be able to analyze what I understood.  
 
Based on my understanding and analysis I was able to see the customer or prospects world through my eyes and then and only then be able to make suggestions and recommendations. Within that context I was able to make recommendations with conviction, as if the problems where my own. This gave me credibility in the eyes of the customer or prospect. 
 

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 8:02 AM by Al Turrisi


Great post, Dave! I loved the phrase “punch holes”! The one challenge, I’ve not yet resolved, is teaching SP how to identify the subtleties and nuances of the situations they’re in, to lead to good, tough, timely questions. I guess I’m sometimes concerned at the cognitive ability of even trainable SP. 
 
Rush

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 8:57 AM by Rush Burkhardt


@Rush - Teaching salespeople to identify the subtleties and nuances of the situations they're in is a challenge for only the managers and trainers, like you, who are aware of the need. For all others, who only care about getting their salespeople to present capabilities and propose pricing, this is a non issue. 
 
And maybe they don't actually have to identify the subtleties - maybe they don't need to identify anything more than the symptoms of problems and recognize that they are only symptoms. Behind the cough could be lung cancer. Behind the shoulder pain could be a torn ligament. Behind the initiative could be a compelling reason to buy. Behind that compelling reason could be a compelling reason to buy from you.

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 9:28 AM by Dave Kurlan


After accessing need and ensuring that the suspect is actually a prospect (has a need and interest) the next part of the sales process is typically creating an environment that people feel comfortable discussing their situation in more detail. Sometimes referred to "as building commonality", it can meantaking some time to ask open questions that help determine a clients personality style, subject level awareness, interest level (strong or casual) and just being friendly :-) This can also give you essential information so that you can tailor your approach, so that a prospect will like you. It is hard to sell, when the client doesn't like you.

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 9:37 AM by Dan Tyre


Rush your comment “I’m sometimes concerned at the cognitive ability of even trainable SP.” 
 
 
 
I don’t believe it is a question of cognitive ability. I think it has to do more with the sales person’s motivation. When they are there to sell they have little or no interest in the prospect. And give little value to listening or even understanding.  
 
 
 
When the sales person is looking to qualify or disqualify, be a partner a deliver value they are more inclined to listen, understand, analyze and deliver solutions that make sense to the prospect.  
 
 
 

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 9:38 AM by Al Turrisi


I accomodated a struggling friend last night by agreeing to go to his home a listen to an individual present a telecommuications franchising opportunity . . . it was awful.  
 
 
 
I was told in the beginning to hold my questions until he was finished and he never asked me one question . . . left me cold from the get go.  
 
 
 
This was a complete waste of everyones time and hammered home the value of the questioning process in any selling situation.

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 10:26 AM by Mike eagan


I'm going to have to disagree with you Dave. I think that the customer's perfect responses rarely queue up so conveniently in a real sales situation. This a wonderful fairy tale scenario. This prospect has no business has no business talking to salespeople. Let's start using tougher sales situations so that sales people won't think it's their fault when things don't go this smoothly.

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 3:44 PM by Jeanne Worrick


Of course it's a 'fairy tale' ..who wants to hear the f%cking truth

posted on Friday, August 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM by Chubby Davis


Dave, this is a professional forum.  
 
I wood prefer if CHUBBY DAVIS 
 
KEEPS HIS STREET LANGUAGE ON THE STREET WHERE IT BELONGS. 
 
HE MAY HAVE TRIED TO DISGUISE HIS LANGUAGE WHICH IS IN POOR TASTE.. HIS ATTEMPT TO DISGIUSE IT 
 
WAS POOR AS WELL. 
 
 
 
I have never been impressed with people who need to use vulgarity to express their opinions. In my opinion it is indicative of a weak vocabulary OR LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM 
 
 
 
Cc CHUBBY DAVIS 
 

posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 at 11:37 AM by Al Turrisi


@Chubby - this isn't the first time that your comments fail to add anything useful to the discussion. And when you do comment, you tend to be derogatory. Jeanne disagreed above, but wasn't derogatory so her comment is welcome.

posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 at 9:04 PM by Dave Kurlan


@Jeanne - We have to provide the readers with a road map. If we provide a difficult to follow road map featuring a difficult prospect we couldn't expect many salespeople to execute it. If we provide a simple example, many more have a chance to execute it. 
 
Circling back, I think you missed the whole point of the post, which was to demonstrate compelling reasons behind Seth's tangibles, not to provide a script for a sales call.  
 
And by the way, the complex dialogs aren't available on my blog.

posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 at 9:09 PM by Dave Kurlan


Great insight and article. I think sales people can be trained/taught to ask the hard questions and take their prospects down the right path. Some will learn faster than others and with time and practice will become more effective. There just may not be enough sales people out there aware that there are better more effective ways of getting the sale. Therefore the more you write, the trainers, consultants etc. get to the right people to work with sales teams the better the world of sales will be. Awareness is a big key to change 
 
 
 
As for Chubby, I guess I have not paid much attention until now about him and one of your most rect articles quoting him. A couple of comments come to mind. 1. He doesn't really exist and is the comments posted are only there to get attention either for him or the article. 
 
2. Maybe if he would lose some weight(the name Chubby does say something)he may lose some of the terminology he uses and very well may have something to say of importance.

posted on Saturday, August 23, 2008 at 11:44 AM by Ed Kleinman


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