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Bad Apples on the Sales Force - Sales or Sanity?

  
  
  

Dave Kurlan is a top-rated speaker, best-selling author, sales thought leader and highly regarded sales development expert.

Some of our many readers at Understanding the Sales Force leave their comments when they feel so moved to do so.  One reader, who chips in with a comment from time to time, identifies himself as Chubby Davis.  Look at the tremendous value that Chubby adds to our discussions:

Out of the dozens of valuable comments from the Best Sales Advice in a Single Sentence, Chubby wrote, "Your client is lying to you!"

From the article,  How Long Does it Take for a Salesperson to Get It?, Chubby wrote, "...Bean Town Bullshit !!"

From the article, Verizon Wireless - Tech, Lies and Audio, Chubby wrote, "Welcome to Amerika".

Among the many great suggestions contributed to Managing the Sales Force - The Calendar, Chubby contributed, "Can hit the local 'Titty Bar' !!!" 

From the article, 5 Sales Management Tips From My 5 Year-Old, Chubby wrote, "That's it, me have no kid = not enough sales !!!" 

And in last week's, How to Find the Compelling Reasons for Seth Godin's Intangibles, he commented, "Of course it's a 'fairy tale' ..who wants to hear the f%cking truth" 

Chubby's antics remind me of the bad-apple, renegade, maverick salespeople that many companies are stuck with.  I say stuck because most executives can't choose between having a functional sales force versus a top producer that is also the local cancer distributor. 

I've met hundreds of these individuals during the past 25 years and they're all pretty much the same.  They're loud, arrogant, know-it-alls that crave attention and will say pretty much anything to get it.  Their act includes insults, teasing, and jokes at somebody else's expense; Publicly complaining about company policies, managers and products; Failure to show up when expected and showing up when asked not to; Hitting on individuals of the opposite gender at their own company and at their customers, and late night partying; And running up the company expense account after spending way too much money bringing their customers to night clubs.  These people make Manny Ramirez look like a good citizen!

As bad as these people are, they aren't the real problem.  The real problem is the manager they report to, who enables them,  protects them, gives them permission to do what they want, defends them in times of trouble, and even shares a few drinks with them to celebrate; all in the name of revenue.

You can do more with less.  Addition by subtraction.  That's how the Red Sox looked at it with Manny and that's how companies should look at it when they have people like this.

Chubby, we hardly know you, and until we do, we'll use your invaluable comments and insights to crusade for functionality and sanity on sales forces around the world.

(c) Copyright 2008 Dave Kurlan 

 

  



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Posted by Dave Kurlan on Mon, Aug 18, 2008 @ 07:58 PM

COMMENTS

Dave, good for you. BUT Chubby is getting more attention then he deserves. 
 
He is like the rebellious child that is not getting attention for his good deeds, because there may not be any, so chooses to be crude, ill-mannered and unprofessional to get attention. 
 
For me, he has gotten more attention then he has earned. Until he redeems himself and makes a valuable contribution to our conversations I have chosen to ignore any further comments he contributes until his contribution has substance, merit and value. 
 
Negativity and lack of taste in a business environment should not get free press.

posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 at 11:08 PM by Al Turrisi


Dave Kurlan, 
 
 
 
In a short burst, this is some of your best stuff ever. A great point well made. I'm gonna poach it and send the link to clients and colleagues. 
 
 
 
I hope they'll realize the article is not about Chubby when we discuss the solution to this problem: Recruiting, Recruiting, Recruiting.

posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 10:25 AM by Dave Mantel


I really don't want to give NDTBF any more attention, but when he tried to make an inappropriate comment on my blog a few weeks ago, I told him that I wouldn't allow it unless he told me who he was. He never did. I didn't approve the comment and never tried again.

posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 6:55 PM by Rick Roberge


I'm kinda falling for his crap... I can't wait to see how Chubby responds to this one.  
 
I usually just delete comments that don't add any value.  
 
They are commonly referred to as "trolls".  
 
Good point about the bad apples, though, Dave. Understood.

posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 at 7:41 PM by Pete Caputa


@ Pete - I try not to delete any comments since everyone is entitled to their opinion and most, at worst, simply embarrass themselves.

posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 7:45 AM by Dave Kurlan


@ Rick - what does NDTBF stand for?

posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 7:48 AM by Dave Kurlan


Have you ever noticed about watching the news the media never focus on Good News. 
 
 
 
The media always seems to focus on the Bad News that is never going to change the quality of anyone’s life.  
 
The Good News that could make a difference doesn’t get to the front page. 
 
 
 
Any insights, light bulbs or genius attacks? 
 

posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 8:40 AM by Al Turrisi


Dave, 
 
NDTBF= 
 
Nosy 
Distracting 
Tenacious 
But 
Forgettable

posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 at 9:00 AM by Rick Roberge


Forget about Chubby, Tubby, and Bubby. The key to the post here is working on the right end of the problem. This is similar to blaming our school system for kids on drugs, teenage pregnancy and the horrific number of kids committing suicide. How about we look at the right end of the problem and that is the culture that is established by the leadership of the company. One of our clients consistently talks about and executes on 'shadow of the leader'. It is very clear that sales organizations get what they tolerate, what they manage to and what they lead to. If they lead for success, manage activities and coach appropriate behaviors then they will get their desired results. If they tolerate, Tubby, Chubby and Bubby then all they can expect is more of the same from the rest of the sales group.

posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 8:27 AM by Tony Cole


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