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Sales VP's and Marketing VP's - Combine Them or Not?

  
  
  

Dave Kurlan is a top-rated speaker, best-selling author, sales thought leader and highly regarded sales development expert.

Pete Caputa pointed me to an article on the Revenue Journal Blog about why you should combine the VP of Marketing and VP of Sales Roles and what the sales part of that role should be.

Zhivago says that the position should be a VP of Sales and Marketing, the individual should be a marketing person and goes on to explain why.  Well, in my opinion, she's wrong!

Marketing people can't manage salespeople because they don't have the expertise or credibility to coach them, and they don't have the kahunas to hold them accountable.

Most Sales VP's can't perform the marketing function either.  They know what they need - leads, visibility, positioning, messaging, etc., but don't know how to effectively get what they need.

Two positions. Two roles. Two people. Two skill sets. Real World.  One of my clients learned this the hard way. Their last VP of Sales and Marketing was a marketing person and didn't really get the sales side of it. They lost 18 months because of this mistake. Today this individual is the VP of Marketing.  A real Sales VP has been hired.

(c) Copyright 2009 Dave Kurlan



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Posted by Dave Kurlan on Tue, Mar 10, 2009 @ 09:22 PM

COMMENTS

This is an interesting and fairly black and white answer.  
What would your advice be to an organization that needs both roles filled. There must be a much more creative solution than this. Additionally, one needs to remember that direct selling is a tactic within an overall marketing plan and any V.P. f Marketing should have some level of understanding of sales if they are going to select direct selling as a strategy.

posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 at 8:26 AM by Teicko


I agree, Dave. I think it's rare to find a single person who is very strong at both sales and marketing. That said, that's kinda my ambition. (Some day at some company.)

posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 at 6:50 AM by Pete Caputa


Product management professionals put it a little different, but wiht the same outcome. VP Marketing needs to be in touch with the market 18-36 months downstream, essentially they are the VP of Tomorrow.  
 
 
 
VP Sales have to live on the 30-60-90 cycle, making them the VP of Today. Performane now vs Performance later.  
 
Putting both these roles in one head creates a natural conflict that few can overcome, let alone excel at. 
 
 
 

posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 10:53 AM by marty tascona


I agree about separate disciplines. The answer lies in whether the organization is hiring sales, marketing or leadership discipline. A leader with a large enough org chart can hire great managers of each for technical discipline, but don't have the same person operating daily in both sales and marketing. Fail. 
 
 
 
I lost track of how many VP sales and VP marketing people I have recruited. Each time there is someone who positions themselves as both. In the rare occasion when they are correct, this person proves great business operations leadership and might be ready for CEO partnered with a solid CFO.  
 
 
 
Keep 'em separate and hire great collaborators.

posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 12:10 PM by David Sandusky


Sales people, vp, etc need to think 30/60/90.....vp sales is the vp of NOW!  
 
Marketing needs to look downstream at current and potential markets, 12,24,36 months.....they are the VP Tomorrow..... odds of combined success very very low.

posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 at 12:18 PM by marty tascona


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