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How Many Salespeople Shouldn't be in Sales?

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Our certified sales development expert in Singapore, Ray Bigger, of Think8, asked if we had data on what percentage of salespeople should be considered for a different role.  Of course we do, Ray! In this case, a different role doesn't mean a different sales role, it means that they suck so bad and have such a small upside, they shouldn't be in sales - period. And if we're going to talk about salespeople that should be either redeployed or relieved of duty, we should also know the stat for salespeople that aren't trainable.  In this case, not trainable has no relation to how good they are, it refers only to whether they have the incentive to change and improve as salespeople.  Look at the graph below:

 

In the graph, you can see that there are about twice as many salespeople that should be redeployed as there are strong salespeople and about twice as many untrainable salespeople as there are that should be redeployed.

The statistics show that:

22% are not trainable
10% should be redeployed
6% are elite

If you have a sales force, you already know if you have one of the 6%.  But do you know if you know which of your salespeople can become 6%ers?  And do you know which ones fall into the redeploy and can't train categories?  They may not be who you think they are.  You have to evaluate your sales force in order to find out.

(c) Copyright 2009 Dave Kurlan

Posted by Dave Kurlan on Thu, May 07, 2009 @ 08:32 PM

COMMENTS

While you posed and answered a legitimate question, why is so much attention given to the sales person when they are simply a reflection of the leadership and management acumen of those in sales management? Sales management should be accountable for hiring and training sales folks, but our research shows that though sales managers believe talent identification and acquisition has the biggest impact on sales productivity, 57% rate themselves or their management teams as neutral to very weak at this skill (talent id and acquisition). Until the managers "get it", companies like OMG and EcSELL won't be able to positively affect as many lives. 
 
 
 
Dave--I love your science based approach, but what % of the managers are not trainable? They need to be reassigned prior to sales associates. 
 
Bill Eckstrom

posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 10:22 PM by Bill Eckstrom


@Bill - thanks for pointing out the real problem. 
 
The percentage of managers that aren't trainable isn't much different than the 21% for salespeople but, the percentage of sales managers who shouldn't be in sales management is nearly double that of those who shouldn't be in sales.. 
 
On the subject of talent identification, or selection, it's not so much their inability to identify talent, as it is their refusal to follow a best practice process, use objective criteria, be guided by truly predictive sales specific assessments, and then on board and develop instead of setting them up for failure.

posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 at 10:57 PM by Dave Kurlan


AS I mentioed in my note the Harvard Business Review had an interesting article in their March issue on provocative selling.Having articulated the stats on the sales people and taking up Bills point is there sdome further stats on Sales Management failings that by comparison would make pulling teeth out quite a pleasant experience?

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 7:04 AM by Ray Bigger


@Ray, I saw the article on Provocative Selling and wrote this article to address it in my Baseline Selling Tips last month.

posted on Friday, May 08, 2009 at 8:49 AM by Dave Kurlan


Having been a sales engineer for many years, I have to agree that a fairly large percentage of salespeople should find other work. But I am not certain if sales attainment should be the sole measure of success, unless it is measured over a fairly long time. Because sales is such a revolving door at so many companies, I would think the junior folks would often fall at the lower end of your scale. What happens when you break it out by seniority?

posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 4:56 PM by Dave Sohigian


@Dave - good question! There are about 450,000 salespeople in our data and 90% have been in sales more than 2 years and more than half have been in sales for more than 10 years...

posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 8:02 PM by Dave Kurlan


@Dave - I don't doubt the validity of your data. But my question was if you see a difference when you break out the numbers by seniority? Are people who have been in sales for 10 years more likely to be "very strong"?

posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 8:30 PM by Dave Sohigian


@Dave - sorry - no. We see no correlation between length of time in sales and the strength/effectiveness of a salesperson.

posted on Sunday, May 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM by Dave Kurlan


@Dave Kurlan - Well that certainly makes a strong argument for proper sales recruiting. If reps that have been in the business for 10 years can still suck it must be because they are moving from company to company. Although companies probably keep lousy sales reps for a while, I can't imagine anyone getting to stick around for ten years if they consistently can't make quota. So that means they move from one company to the next: there is a sucker manager born every minute!

posted on Monday, May 11, 2009 at 8:15 AM by Dave Sohigian


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